Andre wasn't expecting the answer that he got in how to control his inner wolf. He was expecting something a bit more training-like, not just run around mildly supervised in the forest. He couldn't help to let his stony expression alter for once into one that just seemed a touch confused and in disbelief.

"I don't even know how to change unless i've been angered. How exactly is me running around like a rabid beast supposed to help suppress and control it?"

He was used to strict and concrete ways of approaching things like control. The ex hunter was starting to think this was going to be harder than expected.

Jack never really had anyone to teach him, he learned how to control it on his own and the way he learn was by just transforming as many times as he could. He had a temper, that much was for certain but the more you transform, the more you do start gaining more control. Concentrate on turning....and it'll help because at the moment you are keeping that inner wolf locked up and it wants to get out, once you let it out then you won't feel the need to kill everything or bite everyone heads of. He said.

Andre listened to what Jack was saying before his expression started to show though again, only this time in a small, short laugh. He knew the wolf in him wanted out and all, but letting it have its fun running around to get rid of the urge to kill things wasn't going to make such an urge stop.

"I've always had the need to kill everything...so I'm not seeing how running around could even begin to help with that. You're the expert though so I'll humor this theory."

He took a few more steps back from Jack, letting his eyes close for a moment. He wasn't exactly sure how to think or focus on the idea of changing into a wolf before choosing to take a different approach to it in his mind. He let his thoughts roll with some of his darkest memories and how they made him so bitter and full of rage at times. his face seemed to remain like stone through this until his body contorted into the strangest of twisting pain. He snarled as his body finally shifted for the first time into a black wolf, entire body tensed up as golden eyes glared at the alpha that thought this was a good idea. He was trying to stay still but one could see he was ready to attack anyone and everyone now with the snarl on his muzzle.

Jack knew that the theory was strange, but it did work. He watched and waited patiently for the other to turn into a wolf. Hunter had stepped back, going by Jack's side now and both wolves watched as Andre form shifted to that of a black wolf. Jack just smile while Hunter kept a perfectly straight face. Good.....now if you like we can go into the woods and go hunting....it'l help with getting rid of some of that rage, trust me. He said and shift to a black wolf as well, course he was bigger than Andre's and Hunters.

Hunter had shifted with ease as well into a brown colored wolf. Follow me lead, also we communicate through telepathy.....I think only those in the pack have this ability but we only use it to communicate with another pack member. He informed Andre and took off into the woods with Hunter in follow.

Andre's paws twitched and scratched at the ground as he tried to listen to what being said before all his fur looked to stand on end at Jack and Hunter changing into wolves as well. He took a step away at there suddenly being unwanted thoughts in his head, the ex-hunter having hated anyone trying to get into his head with a passion since a certain witch had messed with it. Andre just couldn't keep still and took off into the woods as fast as his legs would go. He just wanted to sink his teeth into something right now and he didn't care if it was human, monster, or another wolf at this point as the snarl seemed to be permanent on his muzzle at the moment.
"Stay out of my head!"
Even his thoughts sounded to be in a loud bark full of insecurity and rage until he spotted something worth taking down. He couldn't tell if it was a deer or something bigger but he didn't care as he ended up chasing it down with great speed. He was being reckless in a sense but slowly he started to slow down and let the beast think it was safe before just tackling it to the ground in a blur of black fur and white teeth. His mind was running on instincts he didn't understand as he broke the animal's neck, not seeming to care what a mess he was making with ripping out its throat and breaking bones.

Hunter growled at the outburst, it was the way of communicating while in this form and Andre would just have to get over it. jack frowned as well but said. I will be in your head if I damn well please, this is how we communicate while in this form you'll have to get over it. He said alittle annoyed now at the new wolf.

Hunter and him both watched as Andre found something worth killing. He allowed the other to take down the deer, letting him get some frustration out. The two wolves stopped, only watching the black wolf rip into the animals neck and breaking bones.

Andre snarled at the comment made by jack, glaring at the alpha and beta for a moment before just shredding the deer to bits. He had blood all over his face and paws but he didn't seem to care as his body stopped being so tense. He looked to be calming down some as he looked at what he had done. He seemed satisfied with the destruction, stepping away from it without care that it became food for scavengers. He just looked up at Jack and Hunter watching him, keeping his thoughts clear as if still trying to be defiant in having to communicate through thoughts. He couldn't help to think what could be next though as he just stared, even as a wolf letting his expression Falling into a stone mask of sorts.

Hunter growled, but the look Jack gave him signaled him to stop and Jack turned his attention back to Andre, hearing the other growl. Growling itself wasn't much of a threat in his opinion, only if Andre tried to step out of line would he attack the other and Andre wouldn't win that battle. Well, you seemed to not be as tense. Jack commented and almost looked to be smiling.

He walked over to where the corpse laid, seeing it torned to shreds. Quite the messy eater, aren't we?[i/] He added with a slightly chuckle.

Andre remained where he was even as he watched Jack look over the destruction he had made of the deer. There was a low and nearly unheard growl in his throat as he heard the comments. He still wasn't happy with there being someone else's thoughts in his head, but now that he had gotten some of his aggression out he was more tolerable of it. His eyes narrowed slightly at being called a messy eater, trying to keep few comments on the matter.
"What's the fun in killing something if you can't leave them in recognizable?"
Andre still seemed tensed and icy about everything. He was a trained killer and it clearly showed in how he had destroyed his meal. He had to get his emotions out somehow. Wouldn't want to take it out on Pain one day so transferring it to this sort of work left the ex-hunter relatively safe to be around.

Hunter had stayed silent now, looking up at Jack and wondered how the alpha was well going to take this defiant behavior that Andre was displaying. Jack appeared to be very emotionless about the whole things, almost uncaring but Hunter could tell that Jack wasn't going to let Andre just be all defiant like this towards him. Jack merely sniffed the corpse, cocking his giant head to the side and looked back to Andre.

Suddenly, Jack charged at Andre at a speed that surpassed even Hunters and slammed like a battering ram into Andre. He wrestled with the other till he was ontop of the other black wolf, having him by his throat and was almost threatening to chomp down even harder. Hunter knew what Jack was doing and knew that Andre would like it, Hunter remained still and just watched what Andre would do. Would Andre try to fight back and almost be maimed, or would he somewhat be compliant to the order f things?

Andre watched what the alpha was doing, remaining indifferent in his own ways before the large black wolf attacked. He had been pushed back but he had managed to keep grounded until the larger wolf started to wrestle with the smaller newborn. The ex hunter snarled and barked as he fought back at first, trying to get the massive form off of him. He went entirely still though when his throat was held tightly in Jack's jaws. He didn't move an inch at first from where he was laying, figuring this was a means of getting him to be more compliant. He ended up just shutting his eyes with a strained sigh and even stretching what he could of his neck to make it easier for Jack to kill him if that was the threat at hand. If he had to submit he'd rather it be to this beast than to run off and his father find him that's for sure.

Once Andre stopped restraining, he let go of the others neck and hopped off the other. He simply sat down on the ground and gave Andre a fierce glare. I advise you to not be like that when it comes to the telepathy.... He said. Now if Andre wanted to my he apart of the pack at this point it wasn't to late to leave. But he had better make a decision on that and quick.

Hunter sigh some and just laid down now, resting his head on his paws and looke up at the alpha and new pack member.

Andre didn't move at first after being released, rising to his feet slowly while adjusting to the fact that he was just pinned to the ground by a werewolf meant to be his leader, or rather boss if he looked at it that way. He could swear he could still feel the teeth that were ghosted over his throat before listening to Jack's words. He only nodded his head, but one could see he had a mild look of defiance in his eyes still.
"I understand. My apologies."
It seemed he was starting to see how this would work out in the end. He'd stay, be an obedient wolf and learn how to work in a group. He looked over at Hunter for a moment, just staring, the look of defiance leaving his eyes as he just stared for a moment before directing his eyes back to Jack. He was here for Pain, he just had to keep that in mind and he'd manage.

Hunter looked up at the duo and sigh softly. He knew that this was going to take some getting use to when it came to Andre since the other had never worked within a pack before. Course the best way for Andre to learn is for him to experience what would happen if he was defiant towards Jack. Good, sorry that I did that but I figured the best way to get you to learn is by showing you what happens. Jack replied.

Hunter got up now, stretching out his legs and actually started to scratch behind his ear. Are you still upset with me with what happened with Vincent and me at your house? He asked, keeping the conversation out of Jack's mind. Don't worry, Jack can't hear this conversation, I have the gift of telepathy so I can choose who hears my thoughts and conversation. He added.

Andre just nodded again at Jack's words. He just managed to keep quiet and walked more over to Hunter. He wary he'd with cold golden eyes at the wolf starting to speak with him.he bit back the snarl as he felt his fur bristle up at what he was being asked of. He was trying to push that to the back of his mind, that aggression starting to build at the mention of it.
"If the fact that I still have an urge to maim you say anything about that than yes. Vincent is extremely fragile, he shouldn't even be with a wolf."
His thoughts were hissed at the beta, the black form moving to sit so as to stop his claws from twitching across the ground. If he could help take care of Vincent more, he's take Vincent far away from the other now that he knew how destructive werewolves could be first hand.